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Monday, October 06, 2008

Can you tell?

Can you tell the difference between the scripture and your own theology? Can you identify the point at which you transition from what is written to how you interpret it? Would you consider that point of any relevance when resolving doctrinal disputes?

13 Comments:

Blogger Another Voice said...

If I couldn't, would I even know? ;)

Missy

10/06/2008 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

That's my real question Missy. It seems that without the aid of the community we might never be aware that we've elevated our own theology to be on par with the scripture.

If this is the case then the person who refuses to consider any other interpretation, correct or not, would be unable to identify that point and consequently would consider any other interpretation an heresy.

It seems to me that if two or more interpretations can be made from the same text without one denying or rejecting the text then we are discussing theology, not heresy.

I still consider heresy as the rejection of the teachings of Christ and the Apostles and not the difference in our understanding of them.

10/06/2008 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger dorsey said...

Trouble is, because Jesus has extra special love for the Elect (and hates the rest of us), they know what Jesus really meant, so to reject their interpretation is to reject the teachings of Christ.

Bugger.

10/06/2008 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Another Voice said...

KC, that's primarily my concept behind the "other voices in my head." Even with the knowledge that I need these other voices, I'm constantly correcting myself to accept what other's are teaching as a possibility.

Can I clarify the last two paragraphs in your comment? Are you saying that the only way you would consider me in heresy is if I were to say {whatever my interpretation of scripture is regarding the teachings of Christ and the Apostles) is false?

Missy

10/06/2008 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Dorse that’s certainly one example of the Gnostic error (secret knowledge) but I’m afraid that is the prevalent error of most, if not all, denominations and/or systems of theology.

Missy, to be very clear, I would consider you an heretic if you reject Christ and/or His authority in any thing but the only way I can know that is if you would say so. If you acknowledge Christ and His authority yet we disagree in our understanding of His instruction or doctrine then it becomes a matter of theology and not heresy.

I am persuaded that there is both scriptural and historical evidence enough to show that theological differences should be openly debated in and by the Church and not used to divide her. We need not sacrifice our convictions for the sake of unity; we need only be ready, willing and able to discuss and debate them.

10/07/2008 03:37:00 AM  
Blogger Another Voice said...

Thanks, KC. I am likewise persuaded - but I still have to walk away sometimes to cool down. :)

10/07/2008 08:42:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Missy I think it’s important to note whether or not you’re having a discussion over theology or having a demon exorcised from your mind. In case of the latter I think it’s best to walk away and not come back unless your head starts to spin or a green substance starts to spew from your mouth. In that case you might need an exorcist, otherwise I think I’d do all I could to avoid them. ;-)

10/07/2008 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger Another Voice said...

What about spewing coffee? Cuz I just did that.

I'm filing that under "applicable wisdom." ;)

10/07/2008 09:21:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Spewing coffee is only a sign of heretical tendencies, not of a full blown possession. :-)

10/07/2008 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger pecheur said...

I liked Dorsey's comment and I second it with a hearty AMEN.

10/07/2008 04:00:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Dorse is kewl like you Pech. ;-)

10/07/2008 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger Rose~ said...

KC is posting again! Yay!
What a great question, KC.
I really like this that you had to say:

I still consider heresy as the rejection of the teachings of Christ and the Apostles and not the difference in our understanding of them.

The word "heresy" is one of those words that has a punch but if you start to overuse it, it loses something. It should be reserved for "special cases." Kind of like the way people use the word "fat" in our society. Anyone who is 40 pounds overweight is somehow considered "fat." So then how do you differentiate them from someone who is 70 pounds overweight? Do they then become "obese"? Then what about 200 pounds overweight? You get what I am saying. You need to save the dramatic words for dramatic casses. Like "heresy" being a religion that won't even apply the Bible to their doctrine but just closes the book and makes up their own "truth." (I won't name any names) (but I grew up in it)

I love this question and the wisdom you have made clear in your comments. I would link to it but that could be dangerous for you! hahaha! I see heresy-hunters in my sitemeter about 20 times a day (no kidding!) and they would come over here and behead you for your suggestion. Better not comment on my blog either for the same reason. You WILL be followed. ;~)

God bless you Casey!

10/08/2008 07:28:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Rose thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement. You always bring a blessing to me.

I totally agree with your perspective on the use of the term. I suspect that’s one reason that so many today seem so nonchalant about using it or even being called an heretic.

Sis please feel free to use or link to anything here you would find edifying. While I have no desire to do anything less than encourage all our brethren God has blessed me to survive more than a few witch hunts. ;-)

I will continue to pray for all involved.

May God continue to bless you and yours.

10/08/2008 01:53:00 PM  

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