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Wednesday, April 19, 2006

So I’m thinking…

One of the greatest blessings in our life is that of purpose. As believers we learn that our purpose in life is to do the will of the Father. In doing so we please God and we illustrate that we are a part of His family. Jesus said that in keeping the Great Commandments of love that we fulfill all the commandments, so…

Shouldn’t we do all we can to learn how to love God and others? Okay, I know you say, “of course stupid”, but consider for a moment. Is that what we really try to learn? Aren’t we more obsessed with learning how to be perfect?

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Blogger Jayne said...

We already are perfect as we are the children of God. But we think there is more to it and therefore we try to be something we cannot be.

If we (self included!) would only learn that and understand that we cannot make ourselves more perfect that what God has already created.

4/19/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger dorsey said...

I wish I could remember who said this because I repeat it a lot:

"If we spent more time helping Christians understand who they are, we wouldn't have to spend so much time telling them what to do."

I think a lot of the success and failure anecdotes I've heard from various students of Rick Warren's book stem from that understanding (or lack of). I think people who approach PDL as a laundry list of works are doomed. Fulfilling your purpose as a believer must flow organically from a correct understanding of who we are as believers (hint: it ain't sockpuppets).

4/19/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Jayne I get myself into so much trouble with some of my brethren because of my tendency to highlight the distinction between that which is born of God and that which is born of the flesh. With that in mind I can really appreciate your last thought that we are already as perfect as WE can be. We cannot perfect our flesh through righteous living, only subdue it by the power of God IN us.

Dorsey how is it that you convey so much with just one word? ;-)

4/19/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Yes, we all need to be more loving towards God and our neighbours.

4/19/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Gordon Cloud said...

Simple yet profound, KC.

Dorsey, that is a great quote. I wish I had said it, or at least quoted it first.

4/19/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Matthew we agree. ;-)

Gordon I'm big on simple. Is that telling?

I say we attribute the quote to Gordon. That should satisfy the situation (hehe).

Thanks all. ;-)

4/19/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger Herobill said...

Was that the right link? I got something about pharisees and tombstones.

4/19/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

(hehe) HB isn't that what happens when we perfect ourselves? ;-)

4/19/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Just curious, does anyone else like this tomb? It's got this warm and inviting look.

4/19/2006 03:21:00 PM  
Blogger Nunzia said...

haha i liked it! i thought so too! but what you said is so true. we are often so performance oriented we forget that it's all because of/about/for Him! God's Grace!

4/19/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Thanks Nan. ;-)
I wonder what the designer had in mind. There is a statement in that layout I'm sure.

4/19/2006 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger Tim Rice said...

I think we are closest to perfection as we practice loving God and one another. And if we need to practice doing that, that means there will be falls; but if we keep on going, practice brings improvement.

4/19/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Hi Tim and welcome! Thanks for the wise words. Experience is the best teacher for sure and love will request our patience from time to time. ;-)

I peeked in at your place and you have an amazing blog. The photos are amazing!

4/19/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Seeker said...

There's a big difference between righteousness and self-righteousness.

And with the wrong motive and/or source of power, it's all just a pile of filthy rags.

Lord, teach us to walk in love; not to appear clean, but to be clean.

4/19/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger audrey` said...

Oh yes Lord!
Teach us to love You more.
Teach us to show more love to everyone.

4/19/2006 10:10:00 PM  
Blogger jeff said...

Jesus said that in keeping the Great Commandments of love that we fulfill all the commandments, so…

Shouldn’t we do all we can to learn how to love God and others?

If we truly love God and others, then we'll never break another commandment. Not because of legalism, but because of love.

Think about this. If I love my neighbor more than myself, I won't kill him, or steal from him, or covet his possessions. No, I'll love him.

I think that's why Jesus said that the commandment of love fulfills the law, because it negates our penchant for selfishness.

As Oswald Chambers said, "Jesus primary consideration is my absolute annhilation of my rights to myself..."(My Utmost, Sept 28)

4/19/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Blogger Gordon Cloud said...

I'd say you were also big on the profound as well, KC.

Thanks for the credit, BTW. Hehehe

4/19/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Karen, Amen sister!

Audrey, Amen zus!

Jeff it's great to have your thoughts here again and very well spoken as always. Love certainly does preclude all forms of selfish behavior.

Gordon you're too kind. ;-)

(I can think of no one more deserving; come to think of it neither could Dorsey (hehe))

4/20/2006 04:51:00 AM  
Blogger dorsey said...

Gordon, you're a genius. I wish I'd said that.

4/20/2006 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Danny Kaye said...

Sorry if this posted twice...I don't know if it posted corrctly the first time...

For the last 7 years of my 20 years as a Christian I would say I lived to "be perfect" even though I taught otherwise. I was so caught up in people not knowing me beyond what I was willing to let them see that my walk with God was reduced to almost nothing.

I was not loving God enough to be open with Him. And everyone knows that if you are not going to be open with God about the "stuff" in your life then you might as well not pray, right? ;-)
I was not loving people enough to be open with them. This left me lonely and secluded, unwilling to allow anyone in.

As a result I was left with this unhealthy desire to protect myself from people. (I rationalized this by telling myself that it would hurt them if they knew me. Gross, huh?)

Anyway, I finally came clean and learned that I was already made perfect in Christ (as Jayne pointed out). Now I am much more able to love God and others without the need to put on a performance that would win me an Oscar.
I wrote a poem about the night I came clean. It's kinda long. But if you are so inclined to read it, Click Here....

4/20/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Jeff welcome and thanks for sharing your poem here. It's not too long at all and conveys a beautiful sentiment.

It is true that love requires risk and most certainly sacrifice but the rewards are eternal. Love is the only thing we can take with us and the only thing that endures. ;-)

4/20/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger Rose~ said...

I spent my entire youth hearing about what good Catholic girls ought to be (and these ideas weren't all unbiblical, I see now) - BUT ... it meant nothing - because there was no relationship with Christ. Neither does it mean anything for us to concern ourselves with what others in Christ are doing, if we are not interested in a relationship with them.

4/20/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Hi Rose ;-)

Wouldn't you think we're already in a relationship with other believers?

4/20/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger Rose~ said...

But sometimes people don't "build" those relationships. I know plenty of Christians that I see every Sunday and I know I have not made enough effort to know them and neither have they me. So - I should work on that "relationship" more than I should worry about whether or not I saw them in a movie theater (just to use what I think is a silly hang-up of some of the folks I know). Does that make sense?

So, yes, we are in a relationship with all believers, of course, (brothers and sisters) but is it "developed"? I should have worded that better. ;~)

4/20/2006 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

For the record sis, I think you are an excellent worderer. ;-)

4/20/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger dorsey said...

Yes Rose, your worderosity is spot-on. I believe that Christians don't altogether track with the idea of the Church truly being a body, because in a body, the members are permanently attached to each other. Imagine what would be required to remove a finger from your hand. I mean, really imagine and feel it. You would feel that mindbending agony in the furthermost parts of your body, because being attached is the natural state of things

Well, church has become more like a paper doll, and if you can get attached and accepted by the other body parts, then goody for you. But those attachments are made with tape and sticky-tak instead of tendons, muscles and sinews, because if we have to remove you, the tape just takes a couple hairs with it, and it was time for a wax, anyway.

Relationships are the absolute foundation of the gospel. If Christians would sit down and share a beer with their brothers (or see a movie, or go out dancing) instead of condemning them for such, the church would look and behave far more like a body. Attachment is the natural, intended state of things.

4/21/2006 07:04:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

That is an excellent perspective!

Dorsey if you don't start getting some of these great thoughts to the foreground I'm going to start posting them here! ;-)

4/21/2006 07:11:00 AM  
Blogger dorsey said...

All my best stuff is on other people's sites. Just giving back.

4/22/2006 08:14:00 AM  

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