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Monday, February 20, 2006

Dispensationalism; Free-Grace Theolgy; and Old School Non-Calvinism

One of the newest collaborative theoblogs is already off to a brilliant start. Some of the blogsphere’s brightest theologians including Matthew, Antonio, Rose, Jodie and Nate will be presenting their perspectives on everything from Soteriology to Eschatology. Are you feeling exegetic? Are your hermeneutics a little lackluster? If so, then unashamed of Grace is the place for you!



Blogger Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Thanks for the link, Kc.

God Bless

2/20/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

Yes, there could be some interesting discussions here.

God bless,

2/20/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger curious servant said...

I'll go take a peek.

2/20/2006 09:59:00 PM  
Blogger Kitty Cheng said...

sounds interesting!

2/21/2006 06:56:00 AM  
Blogger pecheur said...

Since I do not read these guys on a regular basis, I should not comment here until I've heard my brothers (any sisters?) out.

Very curious titles though. Dispensational and Non-Calvin. Of course they are compatible.

But why the title "Non-Calvin"? Or do i really want to know? Anyway, I know what they are against, but what are they for? (teehee). Must be a bunch of "unelected" trying to plead their case to get into heaven. (heehee) I say don't hate the players (or in this case the "elect") hate the game (or in the case your destiny). LOL

Kc, please explain to all my above comments. I'd rather you do it than me. Hahahahahahaha

2/21/2006 07:38:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Pech what a riot. The "Non-Calivinist" tag actually came out of an honest but light-hearted discussion concerning the opinion of some that all who do not adhere to the 5 points are considered Armenian by default. For others Non-Calvinist is the same as Non-Christian. As for your destiny comments I will let them stand on their own (grin).

2/21/2006 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger Timothy said...

I've been there... is't not a safe place for an Reformed Calvinist, who was a Dispensationalist at one time... I can already tell that if I go there, it will be a fight. But thanks anyway.

2/21/2006 08:43:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Titus that is wisdom. It would be similar to me trying to teach election to a Calvinist. We can all study the Bible together but we can't all do theology together. I like to discuss theology with my Calvinist brethren but not if it disrupts our fellowship. Adam and I can argue and fight over these things without spilling one drop of blood or ever offending each other but I know that is rare. We have both informed each other well but neither of us has convinced the other however the understanding I've gained from him has helped in my relationships with my other Calvinist brothers. I hope I've helped him to do likewise.

2/21/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger Seeker said...

"Unelected" pleading to be "elected".


2/21/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Karen that was just enough to get us all thinking...Thanks! BTW missed reading you last week. ;-)

2/21/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger Kitty Cheng said...

I agree that we should never be ashamed of grace!

2/21/2006 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger Kc said...

Amen Kitty and I would go so far as to say the folks there are down right proud of it! ;-)

2/21/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger pecheur said...


I should probably take the time to get to know you before I say anything, but hey I'll say it anyway.=) No harm meant by this.

I have no idea if you are a Calvin or Armenian or even a Christian. I have had my run in with them all. As is the case with all "groups" of people, I like some and can't stand others. Sometimes I enjoy being around my "elected" brethren then sometimes I hate being around those "who have accepted Christ as their Saviour."

Seeker, just saying, that isn't it funny how the "elect" are the only ones talking about "election"? I've never heard an unelect admit he was not "in." But how often do I hear the noise of those who are "in". Do they really know they are "elect"? The Pharisees thought they were in but Jesus told them they were sick and did not even know it.

Lest there be any confusion I AM NOT saying my elected brethren are Pharisees!

I just hope if I am not "elected" that I can by FAITH become justified. And if the "elected" ones wake up in hell that they eternally glorify God.

Again I know this is an emotitive topic, and I not out to stir up anything. I am not going to change anyone's mind and don't intend to. I am simply going to try to live in peace with those I disagree with in terms of their theology. If I am a disciple of Jesus, it will only be known by the love I have for the believers, not on how much I agree with them on theology.

2/22/2006 07:42:00 AM  
Blogger nathaniel adam king said...

I like you Kc. You wanna know why? I was predestined to. I was determined to. And it is all because of God that any bit of love can be found within me for you. Good thing I had very little to do with it. As you are not me, and I love me most of all.

I can say that you have given me an understanding of 'your' position. I don't really know what to classify yourself as. As with me, you can say clearly what school I am from. With you, I only know what schools you are similar to. I think it is one of your points not to be called any one particular thing. Which is good. For you.

For me, you can call me a seven-pointer, a determinist, a freewill believing freechoice hating calvinist. Reformed? YES!

I revel in the lables. Join with me in the basking of their glory, come my brother, do not hesitate. LABEL YOURSELF! Lest I do it for you. [evil grin]

2/22/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

For the record I can vouch for Seeker (Karen) concerning her love for the brethren. She is a prayer and bible study partner and has been both a support and an encouragement as well an inspiration. if all she writes is true she is also one of the most amazing people you'll ever know! ;-)

Pech I know well and know his heart on this so the above was for the benefit of all who read here as I know his thoughts are as well. ;-)

Adam best you be nice for now. There's a review coming up here on the Protestant Pub and I would hate to think it was predestined to be influenced by hard feelings. (hehe)

We are finally in agreement! I love you most of all too! I will also accept your challenge and clearly and openly state my affiliations here thereby removing any and all doubt. From this day forward let it be known that I, Casey M. Carmichael, by my own free will, do hereby acknowledge that I am in association with a group of people who believe that the man Jesus is Christ, the Son of God and that we are known to each other collectively as "believers" and individually as a "believer". Further we are known by various other names ascibed to us by others such as "Christian".

There! You may now openly, and with my full permission classify me as a believer. ;-)

2/22/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger pecheur said...

Thanks for clarifying my statements. I am afraid I took a "joke" a little too far. So, I apologize to you and to Seeker for any and all misguided statements.

Sorry for going too far with a joke,

to my shame this time I am the pécheur

2/22/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger nathaniel adam king said...


2/22/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Pech I thought it was funny and took no offense. I just took an opportunity to promote two wonderful people! ;-)

okay make it three counting Adam.

2/22/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger Timothy said...

BTW, I like the fact that they name their site "Unashamed of Grace" knowing that it was a Calvinist who wrote Amazing Grace... :)

And the prince of preachers was a Calvinist...

2/22/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Titus it was a non-Calvinist who translated the word Grace from the original Greek (hehe).

On a serious note, to God be the glory. That is one of my favorites, if not my own anthem.

2/22/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Kristi said...

Hi Kc!!! How's it going? I will have to go check out that new blog. I have so much to catch up on, and not much time to do it!

2/22/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger Kc said...

Kristi! Welcome home girl! You've been missed around here. I hope you had a great trip and I'm anxious to hear all about it. Pics too I hope?

I'm sure you'll be blessed in reading unashamed of Grace. ;-)

2/22/2006 11:47:00 AM  
Blogger Seeker said...

"These men who have upset the world have come here also;"

Believers will always turn the world upside down by their passion for Christ.

2/22/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger pecheur said...


I hope that means I am forgiven!

Thanks you are a great sport.

2/23/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger Seeker said...

Pech, no offense taken whatsoever. I'm all for Christ-centered unity. And we can have a good time, being the Body.

2/23/2006 10:11:00 PM  

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